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[filmscanners] Re: Cloning

Hi Mac,

Thanks for the response.  I came on this method almost intuitively.  I
don't have docs, and a combination of the "help" feature in PS and a book I
bought on PS led me in the general direction I finally found.  I've read a
description of the method that works for you, and it doesn't work on PS
5.0.  When I follow your steps, and get the point of alt-clicking on an
area near the flaw I want to correct, a message pops up that says, "Could
not use the pattern stamp because no pattern has been defined."  I've tried
this several times, following your directions, and I get the same error
every time.  The book I bought says something like this: ...after all, PS
can't copy from a pattern you haven't selected with Edit/Define
Pattern.  I'm guessing that you have a later version of PS that allows this
sequence of commands to work.

I've tried a combination of your method and mine.  I've selected an area
with the marque tool, selected Edit/Define pattern, and then using your
approach from there on.  What happens is that clicking on the flaw produces
the same shade of gray that the rubber stamp last "memorized," some time
around mid-day, yesterday.  It's a much lighter shade of gray than I'm
working in now, so that won't do.

I hope this helps clarify the problem and give you or someone else a new
thought.  Thanks again from trying to help.


At 12:46 AM 03/08/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > I've run into a strange problem in Photoshop 5.0, and I need help.  I've
> > been cloning successfully for weeks using the following procedure.  Find a
> > blemish, use the marque tool to define an area close to the blemish (same
> > tone), go to Edit/Define Pattern, click rubber stamp and click in area
> > defined by marque tool ("Aligned" is checked in the "Pattern Stamp Option"
> > box), move the defined area over the blemish, eliminate blemish with rubber
> > stamp tool.
>I can't quite get my mind around the method you are using. Perhaps more
>advanced than the
>way I usually clone, so I can't quite help, except:
>For small areas, what does this method have over the MUCH simpler method
>of merely selecting
>rubber stamp, an appropriate brush size (almost always soft edged).
>Then simply <alt>click on area to grab and then click on blemish to cover.
>I don't quite get the Define Pattern as being particuarly helpful here,
>but again, I'm probably
>missing something.
> >
> > Now something different is happening.  I find a new blemish, mark of an
> > area adjacent to it with the marque tool, go to Edit/Define Pattern, select
> > the rubber stamp and click in the defined area, move the marqued rectangle
> > over the blemish, and click with the rubber stamp.  I get the
> > *next-to-last* area that I defined cloned onto the new blemish, not the one
> > I just selected.  The next-to-last selected area might have been light,
> > while the present one is dark.  Furthermore, when I select an area and
> > click in it with the rubber stamp, the last area selected is stamped into
> > the newly defined area.
> >
> > I've closed Photoshop and re-opened it.  I've rebooted the computer.  The
> > rubber stamp still "remembers" an old defined area and will not define a
> > new one.  It seems that "Define Pattern" has quit working.
> >
> > There's a lot of wisdom and experience out there.  I need it, please.
> >
> > Best,
> > John
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