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[filmscanners] RE: large scanning project



> Don't these companies understand how it damages their
> relationship with their customers? Don't they know that an
> important driver for sales in the photography and imaging
> business is brand loyalty?  They are just shooting themselves in the
> foot.

In all seriousness, your questions and comments may be more appropriate
for Nikon which still exists and is still in the business of putting out
digital printers, cameras, and scanners; but they are meaningless when
it comes to KonicaMinolta who have for all practical purposes gotten out
of the digital business of making and selling scanners, and printers.

As for the speed at which companies are developing and distributing 64
bit drivers, it depends on the demand for them; and obviously there are
more 32 bit users who have 32 bit OSs and systems and are crying for and
demanding 32 bit drivers.  The companies are more focused on meeting the
demands of their larger popular market before turning to the specialty
markets and audiences.


----Original Message----
From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
[mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of
lotusm50@sprynet.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:54 PM
To: laurie@advancenet.net
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: large scanning project

> Yes, Epson is being pro-active about it.  I already have 64
> bit drivers for my Epson 7600 and R1800 printers (but not yet for my
> 3200 scanner).
>
> And diminished regard for the manufacturer that fails to
> support their product and keep it current is precisely the
> result and underlines my point.  I'm not sure I will ever buy
> another Nikon or KonicaMinolta product (both my KM scanner
> and KM printer are 64 bit driver-less).
> Don't these companies understand how it damages their
> relationship with their customers? Don't they know that an
> important driver for sales in the photography and imaging
> business is brand loyalty?  They are just shooting themselves in the
> foot.
>
>
> James L. Sims wrote:
>> I am in the same boat with my SprintScan 120 - Polaroid, apparently,
>> has no plans to provide 64-bit drivers for their defunct line of
>> scanners.
>>
>> On the other hand, a tech at Epson informed me that Epson will
>> eventually provide 64-bit drivers for their product line, possibly
>> back as far as their Stylus Photo 1200 printers.
>>
>> I will, therefore be forced to maintain a 32-bit box as long as I
>> have an operational SprintScan 120.  My high regard for Polaroid has
>> been diminished.
>>
>> Jim Sims
>>
>> lotusm50@sprynet.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yes,  KonicaMinolta scanner drivers and Nikon scanner drivers do
>>> not work on XP Pro x64.
>>>
>>> I don't think I would ever say this about a MS product but x64 is
>>> really good.  It seems to me to be a big step forward from the
>>> regular XP Pro. PS and just about everything runs faster.  It is a
>>> shame that both my Nikon LS-8000 and my KM Dimage Scan Elite 5400
>>> II do not work on it. For this is am quite annoyed and frustrated
>>> with both Nikon and KM. What does it take to produce a new driver,
>>> really, to keep your customers happy?  Epson is split on this.
>>> They have x64 drivers for many of their printers (7600 and R1800
>>> for example), but not on some of their scanners (I can't get one
>>> for my Perfection 3200 Pro).
>>>
>>> Old WinXP drivers do not work in any circumstances with WinXP x64.
>>> Some of the scanner control software works (Vuescan and KM's does,
>>> Nikon Scan4 does not), but these are different than the device
>>> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>> gary wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> To be completely clear, the Minolta drivers do not work on X64. I
>>>> need to boot do XP. Thus I am stuck with a dual boot system.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft has supplied a shockingly complete set of 64 bit drivers
>>>> for old hardware, right on the X64 media (I guess it's a DVD, but I
>>>> don't recall). However, this takes cooperation (I assume) from the
>>>> manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>> I called Sony today and they are looking into  X64 drivers. There
>>>> are going to get back to me. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laurie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A couple of points need to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, there are differences between native drivers for 64 bit
>>>>> operating systems and 32 bit operating systems. If you are running
>>>>> X64, then it is probably downgrading or reverting to 32 bit in
>>>>> order to use the 32 bit scanner drivers (I do not think that
>>>>> Minolta or any other scanner manufacturer has 64 bit drivers for
>>>>> their scanners) in order to use the existing drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, Vista when it is released will come in both 32 bit and 64
>>>>> bit versions.  The X64 will only be a forerunner to the 64 bit
>>>>> version of Vista and not to the 32 bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thirdly, it is entirely possible that Vista in all its versions
>>>>> may switch
>>>>>
>>>>> from the current types of drivers for cameras and scanners used by
>>>>> the older
>>>>
>>>>> peripherals to a new type of driver, which was first introduced in
>>>>> Windows XP and exists in XP side by side with the traditional type
>>>>> of driver but will not coexist with the traditional type of driver
>>>>> in Vista.  Microsoft may not supply new drivers for old
>>>>> peripherals so as to make them compatible but may rely on the
>>>>> hardware manufacturers to supply the new drivers for their
>>>>> peripherals which will be compatible with those used in Vista.
>>>>> In this case, users will be out of luck if the manufacturer does
>>>>> not furnish the new type of driver for their hardware or if the
>>>>> manufacturer goes out of business.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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