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[filmscanners] RE: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista



Gary,

I have not used Vuescan of recent so I do not know if the current versions
require or not the factory driver to be installed; I was under the
impression that Ed did not rely on Twain drivers but developed his own
proprietary driver as a substitute for the OEM TWAIN drivers.  As for
Vuescan under X64, I cannot speak to its stability since I have not tried
recent versions of Vuescan under X64; moreover, I suspect, given what you
suggest, it might work without crashing if one used SCSI via an adapter card
in a slot on the motherboard rather than USB (if SCSI cards work in the X64
Vista OS and if there is ASPI layer available from Adaptec or elsewhere that
will work with X64).

> In many ways, X64 is a really good operating system. Remember, it is
> Server 2003 kind of stripped down. But for non-server tasks, it does
> have it's issues. Also, X64 is a dead end. MS wants you to use Vista,
> but 64 bit Vista is a mess. As you probably know, there is a rumor that
> MS is going to replace Vista soon, i.e. it is like Windows ME (the
> minus

I question these statements.  I do not believe that X64 Vista is a stripped
down version of Server 2003 (X64 XP might have been but that is a different
OS than Vista).  Vista X64 does have some problems when used as a server or
as a non-server; but much of it has to do with the availability of X64
drivers, with printing in mixed X32 and X64 networks, and with the
availability of hardware and firmware that can make use of some of the newer
features.  I do not think that Vista X64 is dead or the rumor that you say
is going around has any truth in it.  It is true that MS is working on
developing the next Windows OS which can be regarded as a new version of
Vista (whether it will be called Vista 2.O or by a new name as happened in
the case of the move from XP to Vista, I do not know).  I think that people
may be confusing the switch from using a single name with version numbers
for a software program to the use of different names for each version
without using version numbers with replacing or abandoning the program.
Even Adobe has started renaming its programs from Photoshop or Illustrator
version x, y, and z to Photoshop or Illustrator CS, CS2, and CS3 without
employing version numbers.  I do know that MS decided that they would not
issues a Service Pack for Vista that is like what they did with XP where it
almost comprised a total revision of the program from start to finish;
instead, they would only issue service packs that fix bugs or security
problems, leaving the addition or alteration of features to the next OS.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of gary
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:10 PM
> To: laurie@advancenet.net
> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
>
> Often Vuescan needs the factory driver to be installed. A few devices
> Ed
> can drive directly.
>
> BTW, Vuescan under X64 is not all that stable. Expect a crash every
> other roll. It has to do with how X64 handles USB.
>
> In many ways, X64 is a really good operating system. Remember, it is
> Server 2003 kind of stripped down. But for non-server tasks, it does
> have it's issues. Also, X64 is a dead end. MS wants you to use Vista,
> but 64 bit Vista is a mess. As you probably know, there is a rumor that
> MS is going to replace Vista soon, i.e. it is like Windows ME (the
> minus
> edition).
>
>
> Laurie@advancenet.net wrote:
> > You could try Vuescan; or you could go to the Epson web site and see
> if the
> > scanner software is downloadable/
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> >> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of Jim
> Ketcheson
> >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:19 PM
> >> To: laurie@advancenet.net
> >> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
> >>
> >> I have acquired an Epson 1200 Perfection Photo Scanner but did not
> get
> >> the software. Would anyone know what was originally with this
> scanner
> >> and have any idea where one could find the appropriate software. I
> also
> >> have the Epson 3200 Perfection series but the software is not
> >> interchangeable.
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> Jim Ketcheson
> >> Belleville, Canada
> >>
> >> James L. Sims wrote:
> >>> Laurie,
> >>>
> >>> My plan is to keep a 32-bit machine around for the SS120 and My old
> >>> Epson Stylus Photo 1200.  Then upgrade my main computer to XP 64.
> An
> >>> Epson tech told me last year that that he could send me the 64-bit
> >>> drivers for my Epson 1640 scanner, however, I didn't ask him to do
> >> that
> >>> and I still do not see a 64-bit driver, twain or otherwise, on
> >> Epson's
> >>> website - that seems to support what you're saying about 32-bit
> Twain
> >>> drivers working on 64-bit systems.  Epson does have 64-bit drivers
> >> for
> >>> my R2400.
> >>>
> >>> After I upgrade to a 64-bit OS, I'll try installing the Polaroid
> >> drivers
> >>> on the new system.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> Laurie@advancenet.net wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jim,
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of the scanners up until currently used TWAIN drivers and
> there
> >> were no
> >>>> universal 64 bit TWAIN standards or specs as was the case for 32
> bit
> >> twain
> >>>> drivers; hence, no 64 bit TWAIN drivers were ever produced at any
> >> time.  The
> >>>> net result was that there were no scanners that would work on 64
> bit
> >>>> operating systems as 64 bit scanners.  I am not really sure; but I
> >> think
> >>>> that the 32 bit TWAIN drivers will work under the 64 bit Windows
> XP
> >>>> operating system.  As far as I know, there will be no 64 bit Twain
> >> drivers
> >>>> being developed for any of the brands or types of scanners in the
> >> future.
> >>>> The newer flatbed scanners have gotten much better in terms of
> their
> >> quality
> >>>> and optical resolutions; but I still think they are lacking if one
> >> is
> >>>> scanning small format film with the intent of enlarging the images
> >> to
> >>>> anything beyond 8 x 10 without resorting to the use good high
> >> quality
> >>>> interpolation methods or of cropping out segments of the image for
> >>>> enlargement.  Some of these scanners may in the future come out
> with
> >> 64 bit
> >>>> drivers if there is a market for 64 bit; but it will either be in
> >> the form
> >>>> of WMA compliant drivers for use with MICROSOFT 64 bit operating
> >> systems and
> >>>> not TWAIN drivers (since I do not believe that Apple has a 64 bit
> >> operating
> >>>> system or plans to come out with one in the near future - but I
> >> could be
> >>>> wrong).  I have the feeling that Microsoft's WMA protocol will
> >> become the
> >>>> standard for scanner drivers even if Apple comes out with a 64 bit
> >> OS.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> >>>>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of James L.
> >> Sims
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:48 AM
> >>>>> To: laurie@advancenet.net
> >>>>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe none of the Polaroid scanners are being supported
> beyond
> >>>>> 32-bit Windows XP or the same era Mac OS.  About a year ago I
> >> contacted
> >>>>> Polaroid, asking them if they would be providing 64-bit drivers
> for
> >> my
> >>>>> SprintScan 120.  I had recently upgraded to a 64-bit computer.
> >>>>> Polaroid
> >>>>> informed me that the SS120 had been out of production for more
> than
> >>>>> three years and no driver updates would be forthcoming.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of the quality of today's flatbed
> >>>>> scanners?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great to see active dialog on this list!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob Geoghegan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While we're talking about SCSI scanners under current OSs, how
> >> 'bout
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Vista?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm running an SS4000 on a Win XP laptop through an Adaptec
> 1480B.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The card
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> is supported under Vista, but I don't know what to expect for
> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> scanner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bob G
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
> >>>>>> [mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> halftone@troutcom.com
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:14 AM
> >>>>>> To: bobgeo@dgiinc.com
> >>>>>> Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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