Re: filmscanners: Importance of Copyright on Images

["Tom Scales" <tscales@attglobal.net>]

The 1200 baud modem was fairly common in 1984.  The 2400 baud modem became
common in 1985 or so.

In 1978 when I was in college, 110 baud was the best that we could do until
they upgraded to a staggering 300 baud.

There were not 2400 baud modems in 1971.

Perhaps arguements would be more useful with actual facts.

I'll tell you. I got back on the list a week or so ago, but these stupid
pissing contests are about to drive me away.  Who cares about modem speeds
and magnetic tray tables  -- particularly the 50 or so posts after it was
clearly proven to be a hoax.  If they have a direct relationship to
filmscanning, I can't find it.  Even the Napster discussion is a stretch,
but I can at least say copyright discussions can apply to photography.

Is it always this bad?  Should I just give up?  I must have had 30-40 posts
from Austin and Anthony today -- all of which should have been offlist.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Atkielski" <atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr>
To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Importance of Copyright on Images


> Austin writes:
>
> > Please show proof of a "common" (or any for
> > that matter) 5k+ modem from 30 years ago.
>
> The usual practical achievable speed today is about 33K bps.  Thirty years
ago,
> it was about 2400 bps over slightly conditioned lines, and 1200 bps over
> unconditioned lines, a difference of about 30:1.  Unfortunately, the need
for
> bandwidth has expanded far more quickly than the capacity of ordinary
modems,
> which is why broadband is gaining in popularity.
>
> > 30 years ago, modems were barely 110 baud,
> > and they were not modems, they were acoustic
> > couplers.  30 years ago is 1971.
>
> Hardwired modems existed in 1971, and even before.  They were not widely
used
> because the Bell System wouldn't allow it.
>