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[filmscanners] Re: PEC-12 (was Modern photography)

I don't see Methanol listed in the PEC-12 MSDS.  It is listed for the

Carbon Tet, is non-flammable (and is banned in the US) so I doubt that
it is used in this, since it is flammable and sold in the US.

Kodak film cleaner contained (this is old - I don't use it often)
heptane and 1, 1, 2, trichloro-1, 2, 2, trifluoro-ethane, and is
considered flammable.

Just for the heck of it I did a Google search on "Fruity odor" +Solvent
and come up with quite a few hits, since a lot of organic solvents are
fruity in odor especially ethyl and methyl ethers, but this one caught
my eye:


This product is a degreasing solvent and the msds has a lot of similar
descriptors to the PEC-12.

My guess is that PEC-12 is a industrial product made for other purposes
and sold in small bottles for a lot more money than the bulk version
sells for, and that is why it is a "trade secret".

Personally, I try to stay away from products that are so well hidden in
their contents to make them potentially dangerous if one ends up in an
emergency, because the MSDS is incomplete.

If a company like the one shown above is willing to spell out pretty
closely what their product is made of, the only reason I can think of
for PEC-12 to be so well guarded is because it is just a repackaged
version of something that sell much less expensively for another use.

That's my opinion.


snsok@cox.net wrote:

> In the USA, PEC-12 wouldn't have any carbon tetrachloride,  so it may be a 
> different product depending on where you buy it. Here is the fUSA federally 
> required Material Safety Data Sheet, which says the ingredients are a trade 
> secret. However, it mentions methanol in the section about toxicology and 
> physicians.
> http://www.photosol.com/msds05.htm
> Stan Schwartz
>>From: "Berry Ives" <yvesberia@earthlink.net>
>>Date: 2005/05/29 Sun PM 11:56:39 EDT
>>To: snsok@cox.net
>>Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Modern photography...
>>Yuk!  Carbon tet!  We used to kill insects with it for general science class
>>in the early 60's.  Very deadly stuff.  But I'm still here....
>>On 5/19/05 3:40 AM, "Tony Sleep" <TonySleep@halftone.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Arthur Entlich wrote:
>>>>OK, how about this... maybe the PEC is responsible ;-)
>>>I've never owned any, it's available but hard to find in UK. I've seldom
>>>used anything other than a dry brush for dust, very occasionally a
>>>microfibre cloth. I have some proprietary film cleaner which was reckoned
>>>to be the best available before PEC12, but avoid it if possible as it
>>>leaves a slightly smeary residue. It's only worth using for fingerprints
>>>IME, and they're very rare.
>>>>What is that stuff really made from anyway?
>>>Probably mainly carbon tetrachloride, which is carcinogenic - at least
>>>that's what the stuff I have includes.
>>>Tony Sleep - http://www.halftone.co.uk
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