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[filmscanners] Re: Minolta 5400 & Photoshop CS: best way toscan

> 1.  Many scanner software permits the user to do multi-pass scans which may
> enable one to capture additional detail in the shadow areas of positive
> films or the highlight areas of negative films.
> 2.  Many scanner software packages have digital ICE3 provisions which rely
> on the scanner's hardware based infrared channel, which would otherwise not
> be available from progframs like Photoshop.

Yes, I'm not talking about these functions. These things are good, and the
multi-pass scan is a hardware function (albeit controlled by sw). I don't
know what ICE is, but I love it. If other sw can do a better "raw-scan" by
opening some secret hardware-level nirvana, what are the sw settings to do

> 3.  With respect to color negative, scanner software frequently has
> facilities to remove the orange masking from color negatives which is not
> possible in the case of programs like Photoshop.

Well, I've removed it in Photoshop.

> In addition, I would use 16 bit linear or raw scans for the scanning of
> positive transparancies but not with color negatives since the 16 bit  scan
> does not permit one to eliminate the effect of the color negative's orange
> masking from the outputted file.

See above.

My guesses, and I'd love responses, of the Minolta software settings so to
get a 'raw' type scan are:

- 16bit linear (vs 16 bit)...and if you know the difference, let me know,
- don't know about about autoexposure vs manual,
- autofocus unless there's a problem
- don't know about multi-sampling
- don't know about color matching output space (adobe RGB?) and ICC
- Color neg: best to scan as neg or positive? If positive, invert in
- B/W neg: best to scan as neg or positive? If positive, invert in PS?
- Fuj chromes: no idea
- ICE on, at least with color neg.
- Grain dissolver off with color neg, don't know with b/w neg


David Carson
web: http://www.davidraycarson.com


> filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk wrote:
>> Ed,
>> I think what I'm trying to get at is: Given a person with good
>> Photoshop
>> skills, is it an easier path to simply scan the neg in and modify it
>> in
>> Photoshop vs tweaking it in the scanning program and modifying it
>> with the
>> scan software?
>> I'm coming from the viewpoint that the scanning software, be it
>> Minolta's, Silverfast Ai, or vuescan, just is doing a crappier job of
>> modifying the
>> file POST scan, just as I could do with Photoshop in a better way.
>> I've read reports to that effect.
>> So, I'm asking if either of the above software packages modify
>> anything PRE
>> scan. If they don't, then:
>> - does it matter what software package you use with the 5400,
>> - what is the best setting to get the neg (both color and bw) scanned
>> (16
>> bit, 16 bit linear, positive, whatever).
>> Best,
>> -David Ray Carson
>> web: http://www.davidraycarson.com/
>>> At 01:46 AM 8/18/2004, you wrote:
>>>> Ok, my head is swimming here. I've read elsewhere that the Minolta
>>>> 1.1.5 software (actually, any software, silverfast and vuescan too)
>>>> just modifies the scan at the software level, not the hardware
>>>> level. I'm talking about 'exposure compensation' tab and 'image
>>>> correction tab.'
>>>> Also, for background, I'm a very competent Photoshop user, and I
>>>> don't have a problem modifying the scan with PS levels, curves,
>>>> hue, etc. I'm a newbie at scanning. So, my question to you guys is
>>>> what is the best way (fastest, highest quality file) to use the
>>>> 5400, especially with color neg:
>>>> - scan in 16 bit color neg, or
>>>> - scan in 16 bit linear color neg, or
>>>> - scan in as color positive, either 16 bit or 16 bit linear
>>>> - And what about black and white film?
>>>> - Will either of the two commercial scanning software packages
>>>> (silverfast or vuescan) give me better results if you look at my
>>>> premise?
>>>> I just can't seem to find the resources anywhere for these
>>>> questions. Will the resultant file be a sort of 'digital neg' in
>>>> the same fashion a RAW file is for digital cameras?
>>>> I figure since PS CS can manipulate 16 bit files, it's faster and
>>>> easier for me to adjust things like color balance, leves, etc in PS
>>>> rather than dither away my time in whatever scanning software I'm
>>>> using.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Best,
>>>> -David Ray Carson
>>>> web: http://www.davidraycarson.com/
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