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RE: filmscanners: RE: Custom PC spec

> > I was referring *specifically* to the combination of Athlon/x
> > motherboard/W2K.
> And
> > PRECISELY MY POINT - dear oh dear, some Athlon chipsets (KT133A, say)
> don't
> > get on with W2K.
> I have an Athalon 1.33 and a KT133A motherboard running W2K. Also
> running a
> load of USB & SCSI perhipherals, as well as firewire for a Nikon scanner.
> There is nothing inherently wrong with this combination. It works
> as well as
> I could want it to.


Read the fifth paragraph (counting from below the byline) about DIMMs and

> W2K is, in my experience with it, rock-solid stable and reliable.
> I've been
> running various different systems, and I can count the number of
> W2K crashes
> in the past one and a half years on one hand.


> > NT4 is roughly as bad for playing games as W2K.  If you play
> games you're
> > considered a masochist if you use NT/W2K.  Simple things like graphics
> cards
> > and sound cards are not supported sufficiently well under the big OSs.
> Many
> > games explicitly state that W2K is not supported.
> That's a good thing, really. W2K and NT do not allow application
> software to
> write directly to the hardware, and as a result the systems are
> more stable
> and more secure. Use 98/ME if you want to play games, use NT/W2K
> if you want
> to get some work done.

I get plenty of work done here, thanks!  I can get blue screens if I
misconfigure something in BIOS (experimenting!).

> > > If I were buying today I'd go for a dual Athlon m/b with DDR
> RAM as the
> > > most bang for the buck.
> >
> > http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1483&p=15
> >
> > By the time you've factored in the cost of 2 CPUs and the motherboard to
> > support them, you've added 40-50% to your costs, and MP doesn't
> give you a
> > 50% performance boost over the single processor system. It's
> around 30% as
> > far as I can tell.  If you absolutely must have the best performance
> > available now, then yeah, get the dual CPU.
> It really depends on the application. Some applications and graphic card
> drivers are optimized for multi-processor systems and give a much higher
> performance boost. Some applications don't show any change at all.

We were talking Photoshop.  Photoshop does genuinely get better with a
dual-processor system.

> > DDR gives a performance boost of 5-10%.  But DDR is worth buying because
> it
> > is 5% extra performance for 2-3% extra cost.
> Lucky you. Here it's about 50% more.

Ah, I should have said I was comparing prices of Crucial (made by Micron)
RAM.  I would recommend peeps don't buy "unbranded" RAM.  Crucial and
Corsair are the most respected names.  Prices of unbranded RAM are quite a
lot cheaper.  In high performance systems I reckon this is a risky route to

> > LOL.  The P4 is a pile of crap.  In a year's time it'll prolly be worth
> > considering.  AMD's roadmap seems to show it falling
> significantly behind
> > Intel next summer, I reckon.
> The P4's 400mhz system bus is much faster than the Athalon's
> 133mhz bus, and
> the 3.2gb bandwidth of Rambus is about twice as high fast as DDR ram. For
> some applications that involve huge files and lots of ram, the P4 platform
> will easily outperform the Athalon. This would include some of the
> higher-end 3D animation packages. Athalon systems are probably better for
> Photoshop. It's hard to generalize which is better. A person would need to
> consider their applications, and get whichever is best suited to their
> needs.

I saw benchmarks of a 1.3GHz Athlon outperforming a 1.7GHz P4 in
Photoshop...  Wish I knew where they were now.



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