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[filmscanners] Re: Colour management on Negatives



Laurie

I was not referring to any of the prints as proofs.

I was trying to find out if there is a way to profile a film scanner so that
you can reasonably believe that the colours you are seeing on your monitor /
or the print from a profiled printer of the scan is the colour that is on
the negative.

I run a profiled monitor and printer. I  mainly work from a digital camera
and I do very little work with films. In this case I am doing the task for a
keen 35mm film SLR user. I have obtained the loan of a film scanner from a
beginner in scanning, his knowledge is minimal.

I am aware that using Vuescan or Silverfast and a  IT 8.7/1 transparency
target based on say Fuji Velvia transparency film, you can profile the film
scanner to produce accurate scans from Velvia. You can also do similar thing
with Kodak and Agfa transparency films after you purchase one of their
respective 35mm targets and run the profiling options.

The question inferred is whether the list knows of a standard 35mm negative
of say Fuji film that can be used to profile the film scanner,  if such a
negative target is not available then the profiling option in either Vuescan
or Silverfast can not be completed for a film negative.

If such an action cannot be completed then any scan from a negative is very
much a hit and miss affair.

Eddie



----- Original Message -----
From: "LAURIE SOLOMON" <laurie@advancenet.net>
To: <glenside@ecosse.net>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:03 PM
Subject: [filmscanners] RE: Colour management on Negatives


While it may be the only scanner software bundled with the scanner, there
may be other applications that you can get and use.  Some are scanner
programes like Silverfast or Vuescan, which you will have to check and see
if they support your scanner; some are not scanning programs but umage
editing programs with which you can make color corrections like Photoshop.

If the colors of the subject are the same as those on the film, then, no
matter what softwre one uses, the object is not to match the scanned colors
to those of the print but those one the film once the image colors converted
into positives.

-----Original Message-----
From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
[mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of eddie
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:16 AM
To: laurie@advancenet.net
Subject: [filmscanners] RE: Colour management on Negatives


There is only a Minolta utility bundled with the 5400.

I will vistt the house in the picture at the weekend with the three prints
and
try to work out what the real colors are then make an attempt to correct the
scan to the nearest equivalent.



>===== Original Message From filmscanners@halftone.co.uk =====
>I think the film manufacturers provide what Kodak at least calls
>"film terms", information some scanners can use to get the colors
>right, or at least closer, for those films. This is, I assume, what's
>behind Lasersoft's Silverfast, for example, letting you choose the
>film before the scan. It hasn't always done that, and it seemed to me
>to make an appreciable difference when that feature was added (in the
>5 or 5.5 upgrade?). But, reading between Eddie's lines, I guess
>Silverfast is not bundled with the Minolta 5400?
>
>Sam

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