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[filmscanners] Re: Tips needed on difficult scan


  • To: lexa@www.lexa.ru
  • Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Tips needed on difficult scan
  • From: "" <BobGldstn@aol.com>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:16:35 EST
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the site is

http://www.dl-c.com/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F
.html

On 1/6/02 2:11 AM, filmscanners@halftone.co.uk said:

>From:  albatros.bee@web.de (Bernie Ess)
>Sender:    filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
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>To:    BobGldstn@aol.com
>Hi Ken,
>this wonYent help you here, but in general if you shot slide to scan it then,
>you might try out Provia in the future, while being at least as fine grained
>as Velvia, it is less hard in its contrast and thus keeps more shadow
>detail.
>I have seen a Web site (dont have the URL right now, but it should be
>findable via Google.com search) which does exactly a comparision of an
>identical shot - on emade with Velvia, one with Provia. It was evident that
>at first sight the Velvia had more intense colors (looking more interesting)
>than the provia which seemed more tamed and less contrasty. But the authoir
>showd very well that in the dark shadows the Velvia just lost where the
>Provia still showed detail.
>The conclusion therer was that if you shoot for further digital editing, the
>Provia is clearly the winner.
>
>For your current shot, if its really important, try to find someone with a
>Imacon or a drum scanner and get it scanned by him.
>
>Greetings Bernhard
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Durling" <kdurling@earthlink.net>
>To: <albatros.bee@web.de>
>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:44 AM
>Subject: [filmscanners] Tips needed on difficult scan
>
>
>HI folks -
>
>I'm still working away here, improving my understanding and
>techniques.  Since the addition of histograms to Vuescan, I've been
>trying to utilize them some, but remain somewhat confused, as I'm just
>starting to get a grasp of the ones in PS Elements, which have 3
>sldiers, and input and output controls.
>
>I have a slide that I've been spending hours trying to yield what I
>can see through the loupe on the light table, but it's evading me.
>It's a very high contrast sunset shot taken on Velvia, with one side
>very dark under dense clouds, and the opposite side has brilliant -
>one might say "blown out" - area of sunlight.  Along the bottom of the
>photo is a lot of city detail, seen from above - I was shooting from
>up in the hills overlooking SF Bay.  It was taken with a sharp lens,
>so the detail is there, and I'd like to retrieve it.
>
>My main problem has been trying to bring out all the detail in the
>city - which is in the relatively dark area of the photo.
>Secondarily, the finding a contrast range that doesn't blow out the
>sunlit areas too severely, while not darkeneing the shadows too much.
>
>But what I'd like help with is how to utilize the Vuescan histograms
>to achieve this.  Needless to say, upon initial scan at the default
>white and black points of 1, the histograms go off the scale at either
>end.  What general guidelines should I use for trying setting that
>will bring the contrast range within the scale?  And what effect do
>the color balance settings have on the effectiveness of the black and
>white point settings?
>
>Thanks for any lights, and if seeing an example of this particular
>scan would be helpful,  I can supply.
>
>
>Ken Durling
>
>
>
>Photo.net portfolio:
>
>http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=402251
>
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