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Re: filmscanners: OT: Film lengths was: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)

I pay and have paid for and expect 36 exposure for many, many years -
everything over and above that is a gift.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Entlich" <artistic@ampsc.com>
To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT: Film lengths was: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)

| Laurie Solomon wrote:
| > Art,
| >
| > Interestingly, I have been finding that the length of the film leaders
| > both ends of the film have gotten shorter and shorter as time has gone
| > There use to be enough leader to allow for three extra frames plus room
| > put clips on the ends of the film; now in some cases there is hardly
room to
| > have an extra frame and room for clips.  My understanding is that the
| > industry is attempting to save money in a competitive market by
| > the amount of leader they provide under the justification that the
| > batch of automatic everything cameras and processing do not require as
| > leader as in the past where things were less sophisticated and more
| >
| I think there is some truth to what you say, however, I think the camera
| manufacturers have gotten together with the film companies to make sure
| the autoload cameras waste a lot of leader.  My films from the Nikon
| 801s come back with a huge wasted unexposed leader.  I once asked Nikon
| if there was anyway to adjust this to get an extra frame or two from it,
| but they claimed no way.  I'm certain all that film isn't required to
| thread safely.
| My wife's Canon Rebel G gets 36 frames most of the time and occasionally
| 37 (and it uses reverse loading... it preloads the whole film and then
| shoots backwards until the film is at the beginning), the Nikon 801s 37
| and occasionally 38 (always chopped by lab), the Nikon FM and FE, always
| 38 sometimes 39 (usually chopped by lab).  Same film, same lab.
| Now, those small autoload rangefinder cameras should have no problem
| getting 39, with current film lengths, but do they?
| The thing with the autoload cameras is you barely have to pull any film
| out of the cassette before closing the back, meaning more unexposed film
| available.  The Manual loads usually require keeping the back open until
| you have rolled the film to the take up reel a few times.
| People might think I'm crazy to worry about one or two or three frames a
| roll, but we're speaking about film and processing (and mounting
| sometimes) and 2 frames a roll for me can be 800-1000 or more frames a
| year... it adds up.
| And now, having gone way off topic, I bow out of this discussion.
| Art


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