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Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?


Thanks for clearing away the fog, so to speak!  What you say certainly
sounds logical to my unscientific mind.  Gives me something more to think
about.  It's looking like I'll have to wait a few more years, if possible,
before a good archival printer comes along that will meet my needs without
filling the room!

Hart Corbett

>From: "Laurie Solomon" <laurie@advancenet.net>
>To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
>Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
>Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2001, 8:26 AM

> All dye based inks fade given the right conditions - time and lighting among
> others.  Black tends to go toward the brown ( sometimes the bluish side and
> sometimes the greenish side).  Even some users of pigment inks have
> complained about the Blacks not being true blacks to begin with a tendency
> toward exhibiting the same bluish-brownish-greenish characteristics both
> fresh out of the printer and after a few days/weeks/months.
> Black dye based inks fade less quickly than the light magenta and light cyan
> in 6 color printer and a little less quickly than the full colors of CYM.
> Under strong UV light they all fade relatively quickly.
> One of the reasons more research information is directed toward color than
> black is that straight pure black ink prints generally are a rarity for
> images - even black and white images.  It is used primarily for text and
> line art in which fading is not as noticeable or important in many cases.
> Black & white or grayscale images are typically printed using the color inks
> because in the past and even currently the printers and those inks seem to
> do a better job printing grayscale images.  Keep in mind here that true
> photographic quality has been the standard that inkjet printers attempt to
> match - not watercolors, oil paintings, spot color images, etc.  Thus, the
> color dye based inks tend to furnish a smoother tonal quality and range for
> grayscale images than does the black only ink which comes closer to meeting
> the standard.  Thus, the focus on color inks more than black.
> A caveat, some of this may not apply to third party inks as much as to OEM
> inks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of Hart or Mary Jo
> Corbett
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:11 AM
> To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
> Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
> Thanks for the quick reply!
> What's the fade resistance, do you suppose?  I somehow have assumed that
> black ink generally lasts longer than the various colors but most info about
> longevity is focused on colors.
> Hart Corbett
> ----------
>>From: "Rob Geraghty" <harper@wordweb.com>
>>To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and LS-2000 real value?
>>Date: Fri, Jan 26, 2001, 5:46 AM
>> "Hart or Mary Jo Corbett" <hnmjcorbett@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> (1)  My question pertains to B&W archival printing; apparently, the 2000P
>>> can't even do that.  Is there any printer out there which can at fairly
>> high
>>> res?  I'm used to sharp prints.  [Prints not to exceed 8X10]
>> You might want to look at an Epson 760 (I'd have said 1160 except you
>> said no larger than 8x10) with the Cone Piezography system.  The 760
>> seems unbelievably cheap at the moment in the USA so it would probably
>> be worth a try.
>> Rob


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