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[inet-admins] [HANK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Internic tactics]



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-----Forwarded message from Hank Nussbacher <HANK@taunivm.tau.ac.il>-----

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Date:         Tue, 23 Dec 97 21:46:31 IST
From: Hank Nussbacher <HANK@taunivm.tau.ac.il>
Subject:      Internic tactics
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I just love Internic, not!  Watch closely the date I sent this and their reply:

>Return-Path: <netreg@internic.net>
>From: Network Registry Account <netreg@internic.net>
>Subject: Re: [NIC-971216.9078] Update IP template
>To: hank@ibm.net.il (Hank Nussbacher)
>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:31:58 -0500 (EST)
>X-MTS-Ticket: 971216.9078
>X-MTS-Type: Network
>X-MTS-Priority: Normal
>X-MTS-Mode: Modify
>X-MTS-Status: Open
>X-MTS-Timestamp: 971216082820
>
>Hello,
>
>Sorry we are unable to complete your request.  The WHOIS database
>has certain fields that need to be completed and we are not able
>to include your message.
>
>For your information -
>As of 22 Dec 1997 American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>is administering IP Number registration including ISP CIDR, IP
>Network Number, Autonomous System Number (ASN), Inverse
>Mapping (IN-ADDR), and Reassign (SWIP) requests.
>
>Any further correspondence regarding IP address issues please send
>a message to hostmaster@arin.net.
>
>Regards,
>
>Cathy Clements
>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>====================================================================
>   email                              hostmaster@arin.net
>   voice                              (703) 227-0660
>====================================================================
>
>
>> From hank@ibm.net.il  Tue Dec 16 08:28:19 1997
>> Received: from rs3.internic.net (rs3.internic.net [198.41.0.8]) by
opsmail.internic.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id IAA10156 for
<hostmaster@internic.net>; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:28:19 -0500 (EST)
>> Received: (qmail 5420 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1997 13:28:16 -0000
>> Received: from biff.ibm.net.il (root@192.115.72.164)
>>   by rs3.internic.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 1997 13:28:16 -0000
>> Received: from docking.interall.co.il (hank.tlv.ibm.net.il
[192.115.72.7]) by biff.ibm.net.il (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA30238 for
<hostmaster@internic.net>; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:28:12 +0200
>> Message-Id: <2.2.32.19971216132659.00680af8@max.ibm.net.il>
>> X-Sender: hank@max.ibm.net.il
>> X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32)
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:26:59 +0200
>> To: hostmaster@internic.net
>> From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@ibm.net.il>
>> Subject: [NIC-971216.9078] Update IP template
>> X-MTS-Ticket: 971216.9078
>> X-MTS-Type: Network
>> X-MTS-Mode: Modify
>> X-MTS-Priority: Normal
>> X-MTS-Status: Open
>> X-MTS-Timestamp: 971216082820
>>
>>
>> I am the owner of the following template:
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Israeli Network Information Center (NETBLK-ISRAELC-BLOCK)
>>    ISRAEL
>>
>>    Netname: ISRAELC-BLOCK
>>    Netblock: 192.114.0.0 - 192.118.255.255
>>    Maintainer: ISRL
>>
>>    Coordinator:
>>       Nussbacher, Hank  (HN7)  hank@ISOC.ORG.IL
>>       +972-9-7663447 (FAX) +972-9-7663432
>>
>>    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
>>
>>    RELAY.HUJI.AC.IL          128.139.6.1
>>    ARISTO.TAU.AC.IL          132.66.32.10
>>    NS.RIPE.NET                       193.0.0.193
>>
>>    Further Reassignment Information Is At: WHOIS.RIPE.NET
>>
>>    Record last updated on 05-Sep-96.
>>    Database last updated on 15-Dec-97 05:18:18 EDT.
>>
>> The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
>> (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
>> Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I would like to add in at the very top of the entry so no one missed it the
>> following text:
>>
>> The record you are viewing is controlled at whois.ripe.net.  To view
>> the proper ownership of any IP net from this block, you must issue a
>> whois command to whois.ripe.net and not to whois.internic.net.
>>
>> It must be boxed in if possible so it is clearly visible and not embedded in
>> the record.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hank
>>
>

All I wanted was something like this (from 193.0.0.0):

European Regional Internet Registry/RIPE NCC (NETBLK-RIPE)
   These addresses have been further assigned to European users.
   Their contact information can be found in the RIPE database.
   See below how to use that database to obtain up-to-date information.

   Netname: RIPE-CBLK
   Netblock: 193.0.0.0 - 193.255.255.0
   Maintainer: RIPE

   Coordinator:
      RIPE Network Co-ordination Centre  (RNC-ORG)  nicdb@RIPE.NET
      +31 20 535 4444
Fax- +31 20 535 4445

   Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

   NS.RIPE.NET                  193.0.0.193
   NS.EU.NET                    192.16.202.11
   AUTH03.NS.UU.NET             198.6.1.83
   NS2.NIC.FR                   192.93.0.4
   SUNIC.SUNET.SE               192.36.125.2 192.36.148.18
   MUNNARI.OZ.AU                128.250.1.21 128.250.22.2
   TECKLA.APNIC.NET             202.12.28.129

   The RIPE database is available via the WHOIS and TELNET
   servers at whois.ripe.net.  For further information see
   http://www.ripe.net/
   To search on arbitrary strings, see the Database page on
   the RIPE NCC web-site at http://www.ripe.net/db/

   Record last updated on 22-Oct-97.
   Database last updated on 23-Dec-97 05:42:31 EDT.

The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.

Now I have to start all over again with ARIN.

-Hank

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