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[filmscanners] Re: X rays was Digital PIC





Shunith Dutt wrote:


>
> PS: i think i read somewhere... years ago... that one is actually entitled
> to demand a hand search if one's carrying film (IATA regulations?)... not
> sure if it's true or valid now....
>


The U.S. FAA has such a regulation, (mentioned in your own quoted info
below).  I'd be very interested if anyone knows of a broader regulation
that more countries are signatory to.

Art



Hand Inspection
Note: The FAA provides air travelers in the United States the right to
request a non-X-ray inspection of photosensitive products (FAA Reg.
108.17-AIRPLANE OPERATOR SECURITY). The complete regulation is very
informative, but section Part 108.17e is most important to travelers
carrying film. Click here to go to the FAA Web site: FAA , or to view
that regulation: FAA Reg. 108 . Remember that this only applies to air
travelers in the United States.







>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <johnhayward@hopcoinvst.com>
> To: <shunith@vsnl.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:03 PM
> Subject: [filmscanners] RE: X rays was Digital PIC
>
>
> I've found the following info on Kodak's site pertinent to lead lined
> bags.
> Seems they continue to recommend lead lined bags for still film, but not
> motion picture film.
>
> Go figure, wouldn't both be damaged?
>
> Methinks I'll take my film out of their canisters, put them in a ziplock
> bag, and ask nicely with a smile if they can check it for you without
> sending through the x-ray machine.
>
> John
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
> Kodak Technical Information Bulletin
>
> http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml
>
> Baggage X-ray Scanning Effects on Film
> This document was updated February 18, 2002
> Suggestions for Avoiding Fogged Film
>
> SNIP -----
>
> Lead-lined bags, available from photo retailers, will weaken the
> x-radiation on film and reduce potential harm. However, the
> effectiveness of any particular lead bag depends on the intensity and
> electric potential of the X-ray generator, the lead's thickness, and the
> film speed. If you use a lead bag, check with the manufacturer for the
> effectiveness of their products with airport X-ray devices. The
> inspection process may be triggered by a lead bag on the scanner screen.
> In a typical airport surveillance situation, the baggage may be pulled
> aside for additional inspection.
>
> SNIP -----
>
> KODAK MOTION PICTURE IMAGING - NO DATE
> DO X-RAYS HARM MY FILM?
>
> http://www.kodak.com/country/us/en/motion/support/
> technical/transportation.shtml
>
> SNIP -----
>
> The once popular lead-lined carry bags aren't practical today because if
> an inspector can't see through the bag, he will increase the intensity
> of the x-ray until he can. Therefore, film may receive more harmful
> radiation than it would otherwise if it were normally inspected.
>
> SNIP -----
>
> Security precautions at US airports have been significantly tightened
> following the tragic events of September 11th. Among precautions that
> travelers can expect will be the increased use of new, high-intensity
> x-ray scanners for checked baggage and hand-carried baggage. Passengers
> should be aware that these high-intensity x-ray machines will fog and
> ruin all unprocessed film of any speed, whether exposed or not. Kodak
> recommends that air travelers do not carry unexposed or unprocessed
> motion picture film.
>
>
>
> Hand Inspection
> Note: The FAA provides air travelers in the United States the right to
> request a non-X-ray inspection of photosensitive products (FAA Reg.
> 108.17-AIRPLANE OPERATOR SECURITY). The complete regulation is very
> informative, but section Part 108.17e is most important to travelers
> carrying film. Click here to go to the FAA Web site: FAA , or to view
> that regulation: FAA Reg. 108 . Remember that this only applies to air
> travelers in the United States.
>
> SNIP -----
>
>
>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk
>>>>[mailto:filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk] On Behalf Of Bob Armstrong
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:18 AM
>>>>To: johnhayward@hopcoinvst.com
>>>>Subject: [filmscanners] Re: X rays was Digital PIC
>>>>
>>> The question was asked in relation to carry on luggage.  Please give
>>>
> the source of your information that the X-Ray dose of carry on scanners
> 'gets bumped up to see through the bags'.
>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Op's wrote:
>>>
>>> johnhayward@hopcoinvst.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Though OT - a very valuable discussion.
>>> >>
>>> >> Does anyone know if the lead lined bags sold to carry film
>>>
> through
>
>>> >> carry-on X-Rays really help or do they only have a placebo (sic)
>>>
> effect?
>
>>> >>
>>> >> If they really were to shield film from X-Rays, wouldn't the
>>>
> objects
>
>>> >> inside be invisible and hence raise suspicion?
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>>
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > Have been told that the dosage of radiation, if necessary, gets
>>>
> bumped up to see through the
>
>>> > bags.
>>> >
>>> > Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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