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 RE: filmscanners: OT:X-ray fogging
 
 From 
the quotes that have been included, I am not sure if you are responding to me or 
to someone else.  However, I will make a few counterpoints to your 
comments.    First 
of all, many of those high quality magazines published in the US which are 
printed or distributed in Europe have bureaus in Europe whose staffs are full 
time residents in that location and not temporary traveling staff personnel 
( with some of the full time resident staff being professional 
photographers).  Thus they are familiar with the consistent and reliable 
sources for supplies as well as for processing and if need be pass the 
information on to visiting photographers from elsewhere who come to their 
location to shoot for their magazines.  In the case of the high quality 
European magazines that publish and distribute in Europe, their full time 
resident staffs as well as any freelancers shooting for them are very familiar 
with the reliable and consistent suppliers and labs in the area or are made so 
by those in their publications who have that knowledge.  This is not the 
case for visiting tourists or professional commercial photographers who may be 
passing through a given location and not affiliated with any of the major 
European or US magazines or newspapers - be they their on vacation, to shoot 
stock photos or on commercial assignments.   Secondly, not all the locations in the US or out of the US are major 
metropolitan urban areas or near such areas so as to afford visiting 
photographers access to high quality suppliers and labs that might be found in 
the major metropolitan urban areas; and if they do exist, the visitor will not 
know of their existence in advance so as to be able to count on there being at 
the location when the visiting photographer is in that location.  I would 
hate to arrive in some rural village 200 miles from any major urban metropolitan 
area with a few rolls of film only to find that there are no suppliers in that 
village or the surrounding area or that they only carry one type and speed of 
film in small quantities such that I would have to go 200 miles to get the 
supplies that I needed.  Moreover, not all countries in  the world are 
industrialized  so as to even have major urban metropolitan areas that 
serve as centers for any of the uses of commercial photography so as to have 
suppliers of international brands of film and modern processing available.  
   Thirdly, you can get bad film anywhere and you can get screwed up 
processing anywhere; that is not the point.  The point is that visitors to 
a strange area do not know or have any way of knowing who is and who is not 
reliable on a consistent basis in the area that they are visiting unlike people 
from the area.  This means that the visitor takes a much more uncontrolled 
and uncalculated risk than the person who is from the area in making purchases 
of perishable - so to speak - supplies and getting demanding precision 
processing and/or printing done.     Consequently, the risk of fogging via x-rays may frequently be less if 
one takes precautions than getting supplies on location or having processing 
done on location.  Some of the precautions include knowing what countries 
have airport scanners that are cranked up to high levels or generate stray 
x-rays, which airports do not allow hand checking of films, and the like.  
Furthermore, if one is shooting for some major internationally influential 
client, the client may have some ways of by-passing the x-raying of their film 
via some special arrangements with customs and airport security which the 
individual photographer will not have.  Many companies that engage in 
international commerce use brokers and expediters to get around many of the 
requirements that mere mortals encounter.   As a 
couple of asides, many of the high quality magazines use their own staff 
photographers and staff operated labs; they buy their film, paper, and 
chemistry in bulk direct from the film manufacturers or their 
distributors.  They therefore control the storage conditions of the 
supplies which their staff uses so as to assure as best that anyone can the 
quality of the supplies rather than leaving such things up to random 
chance.  They also maintain and control their own developing and 
printing processing equipment and activities with respect to regular changing of 
chemistry, filtration of water, cleaning of processors, etc.  
   Another aside has to do with distinguishing between professional 
photographers and non-professional photographers with respect to their demands 
and needs concerning the delivery of a high quality successful product.  
Professionals shooting for commercial purposes are paranoid and concerned about 
quality because not only is their reputations at stake but their livelihood is 
as well which is not the case for non-commercial photography done by amateurs or 
professionals.  Thus, while some of what has been said may be appropriate 
for non-commercial photography where an adequate or satisfactory quality may be 
all the is needed with no major long lived repercussions for failures of poor 
results; it is not so for commercially motivated photography.  The two 
should not be lumped together as having the same demands or needs so as to have 
the same solutions. 
  Just sticking my nose in here, with a 
  little trepidation, we are surely aware that there are numerous high quality 
  publications in Europe, including photographic magazines on sale at Borders 
  and B&N, and I'm sure they didn't have agents in the US getting film at 
  our local stores, or having their stuff processed in the US. I think Anthony 
  has a point. However, photographers are inherently paranoid about having 
  their precious films processed somewhere that they don't know or have 
  experience with. I lost an important roll recently here in California when the 
  local camera store operative screwed up his mini lab, with a grossly 
  underdeveloped roll. It can happen anywhere.
 Hersch
 
 At 03:36 PM 
  09/07/2001, you wrote:
 
 Laurie writes:
 > But not 
    everybody uses the same quality controls
 > or implements them in the 
    same way with regularity.
 
 The results I've obtained have been 
    extremely consistent.  The process is so
 highly automated and 
    consistent that it is far less likely to be messed up than,
 say, the 
    preparation of prints (although recent advances such as the Fuji
 Frontier 
    appear to be making prints nearly as foolproof as 
  well).
 
 
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