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Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED



Ian
I think you shall try LS4000 with Silverfast before  a judgment like this.
Or was your comparision  including Silverfast 5.2 1 rev04  ??

Mikael Risedal


>The SS120 produces superior 35mm scans to the SS4000 and wipes the floor
>with the 4000ED. If the 8000 scans anything like the 4000ED then I'm real
>sorry for you Nikon users. The SS120 comes mighty close to Imacon quality

>From: Ian Lyons <ilyons@msn.com>
>Reply-To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
>To: <filmscanners@halftone.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon 8000ED
>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:44:28 +0100
>
>Rafe,
>
> > Curious silence from
> > the "other" camp.
>
>
>If SS120 users came to list singing its praises every day you would smell a
>rat and call for the exterminator :-)
>
>You can only coverup a problem for so long and I've had the the SS120 
>longer
>than most, namely April. It doesn't suffer any of the problems the Nikon
>seems to suffer, i.e. banding, unstable software, poor depth of field, etc.
>There are also a hell of a lot more SS120's in the field than 8000's. I
>don't here much screaming for level 2 tech support and as you have already
>noted they are whining here either :-)
>
>
>The only problems I find with the S120 were reported to the list and other
>forums long before the 8000ED even hit the streets. See
>http://phi.res.cse.dmu.ac.uk/Filmscan/2001/Jun/0209.html
>
>David Hemingway has also commented on these problems here and elsewhere.
>Talking of company representatives I'm still trying to figure which stone
>the Nikon guys hide under :-)
>
>SS120 Problems or Disadvantages:
>
>The SS120 the 35mm strip film holder is of poor design and needs fixed. It
>is too damned fiddly. See the above linked message for my other thoughts on
>film carrier problems.
>
>You mention workarounds, well the SS120 requires one also. Medium format
>camera makers can't agree the distance between frames so we end up with 
>some
>frames out of line on prescan. This happens more with 645 format than other
>sizes. The workaround is set the software for 6 by 9 and overscan. Time
>penalty, about 30 seconds per scan! Hint to David, with a bit of thought
>this could be turned to a MAJOR advantage - full size single scan 
>panoramas.
>
>One of Nikons big selling points is ICE Cubed - Well given sufficient heat
>ICE will melt. I don't think Polaroid have a problem beating the Nikon in
>terms of hardware and overall scan quality, but the customer wants ICE and
>that they can't deliver, yet.  Although, stranger things have happened.
>
>I'll keep looking for other problems, but it's getting awfully difficult 
>:-)
>
>
>
>A few Pluses:
>
>
>The SS120 produces superior 35mm scans to the SS4000 and wipes the floor
>with the 4000ED. If the 8000 scans anything like the 4000ED then I'm real
>sorry for you Nikon users. The SS120 comes mighty close to Imacon quality
>when scanning anything up to 6 by 9, but the Imacon costs 4 or 5 times the
>price.
>
>Shadow detail is excellent. Scans are very neutral right off. Noise levels
>are very low and multisample scans aren't necessary.
>
>Insight 5 (and I don't like it) allows the user to scan, edit and
>export/save images in high Bit mode. Does NikonScan 3 allow this?
>
>
>
>
>
>Ian Lyons
>http://www.computer-darkroom.com
>
>PS:  I think the silence has just been broken, or maybe as a VERY satisfied
>SS120 user I just needed to crow and let you Nikon users know that the 
>grass
>IS greener on the other side of the fence and judging by some of ex Nikon
>8000 users on the list; the ICE has already began to melt <lol>
>

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