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RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides using Digital ICE



Laurie Solomon wrote:
>In some cases, you are suggesting  - nay, recommending - the
>user buy a new scanner that has your product bundled with it if the user
>happens not to have a scanner that came with Digital ICE.

Not necessarily. One option is to take the negative to a scanning service. I
know the Kodak Picturemaker(c) kiosk has a Nikon LS2000 in it and there are
others that offer the service including many of the newer mini-labs. And
yes, if you are buying a new scanner or replacing an existing scanner I
wouldn't consider buying one without Digit ICE. I have access to many
scanners, including high end drum scanners and other high end scanners
($20,000 to $100,000+). I rarely ever use a scanner unless it has Digital
ICE for my own work. I've found that removing the defects during the scan
produces much better results. I have used oil to coat film for drum scans
with good results. While it doesn't do as good a job as Digital ICE, you can
get a higher resolution scan. However, it usually takes me the better part
of the morning to scan a single image. By the time you coat the image with
oil, scan it, remove the oil, dry it, your morning is shot and there are
still some defects that aren't removed. When I scan using a Digital ICE
enabled scanner, I try not to touch the film with anything but air. I
believe it is safer than using any chemical or cloth on the film.

I realize I sound self-serving for Applied Science Fiction (I am), but also
I believe in and use the product. I believe it is in the interest of the
scanning community as well, that I promote Digital ICE. If I'm too excited
about it, I apologize.

Jack Phipps
Applied Science Fiction

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurie Solomon [mailto:laurie@advancenet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:27 PM
To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)


While I am not seeking to challenge the validity of your claim for Digital
ICE, I do question your offering it as a solution to a user's problem when
you know that the user cannot get Digital ICE as a separate application and
that not every scanner has an infrared channel so as to enable the user to
make use of Digital ICE even if it were available as a stand alone
application.  In some cases, you are suggesting  - nay, recommending - the
user buy a new scanner that has your product bundled with it if the user
happens not to have a scanner that came with Digital ICE.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
[mailto:owner-filmscanners@halftone.co.uk]On Behalf Of Jack Phipps
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:23 PM
To: 'filmscanners@halftone.co.uk'
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)



>Hopefully I'll be able to remove the fingerprint with some careful
>use of the cloning tool.

Digital ICE should solve this problem for you.

Jack Phipps
Applied Science Fiction

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Geraghty [mailto:harper@wordweb.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:26 PM
To: filmscanners@halftone.co.uk
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)


Jim wrote:
> PEC 12 ONLY cleans grease- based stains. It does not clean water-
> based stains. It will remove a fingerprint but not hard water
> stains, for example. This point has not been made yet, so I
> decided to add to this growing thread.<g>.

FWIW I tried to remove a fingerprint from a film strip yesterday only to
find that it's embedded in the emulsion.  The operator at the lab must have
put their fingerprint on the film while the emulsion was wet. :(  In their
defense, it was right on the end of the film where an image *shouldn't*
have been, but the camera had squeezed another image onto the end of the
strip.  Hopefully I'll be able to remove the fingerprint with some careful
use of the cloning tool.

Rob



Rob Geraghty harper@wordweb.com
http://wordweb.com




 




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